Lord Harper (Con): I am grateful to the Minister.

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I am grateful to the Minister. I did listen and—he should not worry—I am not trying to pretend that he thinks that therefore we can reduce offences by 80% overnight. It would just be helpful to have a sense of what impact this might have. I also welcome the extraterritoriality clauses, because he is right that it means that we can use extradition offences, but we can also use some of the other tools that we have at our disposal once we can demonstrate that there are offences. My specific question picks up Amendment 14. I agree with the Minister that there should be defences, or carve-outs, for

Report (1st Day) Scottish, Northern Ireland and Welsh legislative consent granted. Relevant document: 10th Report from the Constitution Committee. Clause 1: The Border Security Commander Amendment 1 Moved by 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, leave out “designate a civil servant as the” and insert “appoint a” Member’s explanatory statement This amendment would remove the requirement for the Border Security Commander to be a civil servant. My Lords, it is a pleasure to open our first few hours of debate on Report. Noble Lords who have taken an interest in the Bill throughout our deliberations so far …